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Radiant Heat and Drywall DONE!

 


We are DONE with dry wall and everything is painted!!! It looks almost like a real house inside. I can top that news by saying WE HAVE HEAT!!!


Lets take a moment to celebrate having a functioning heating system in a cold climate in the middle of winter!

The marathon of drywall is done for now. We still have the master wing of the house to do after we move in but we would like to just pretend we are done for awhile. It was a long slow dusty process but it looks amazing. The flat walls are a cool white and the dome surface is a warm cream. All our color will come from materials not paint colors. We have plans for wood, metal and stone throughout the house. We are finally getting to install more lighting fixtures and finalize all the outlets and switches. To watch a five minute video walk through CLICK HERE.

Greatroom floor outlet in the center of the room. We decided that since the room is 32' across it needed an outlet in the center where furniture would be.
Kids bathroom sconces on either side of a mirror that will be back lit.
Back door gets a small night light.
Hallway from back door facing the kitchen. Kids bedrooms on either side.
Soundproof wall dividing the kitchen from the master suite wing.
Some of the cabinets moved into their rough locations in the kitchen.
Kid bedroom with light bar wall sconces.

We still have the curved great room walls to sheath in plywood. They should be fairly quick to complete but we still have a few more projects ahead of that one. That means just two walls are still studs.

The heating system is not very photogenic and in a tight area so CLICK HERE to watch a video showing our system when we first turned things on. Each day we turned on a new heat zone to allow everything to acclimate. We brought the slab from 45 degrees up to 60 to start out. It takes a lot to change the temperature of all the concrete but then it takes very little to keep it steady. All the thermal mass resists temperature change in either direction. This means our electric bill the first month of it running was a whopper! It ran nonstop trying to bring a super cold slab and house up to temp. We haven't gotten a second bill yet but hopefully this one will be small because it will be just what is needed to maintain temperature. The system only occasionally clicks on even if it is super cold out. The take away from this info... NEVER let it get super cold! We will need to adjust how we approach heating in the winter. To save energy bills in winter we typically turn down our heat at night and when we are not home. That approach will not work with this house. It does not change temperature that easily. It is a situation where you should plan on setting it and just leaving it unless you are going to be gone on vacation for more than a few days. It is going to be an adjustment for us. We are so used to constantly changing the house temperature based on a daily schedule.

We designed the system ourselves with a bend of several sources. We decided to do it ourselves because we do not have any heating companies in our area that are familiar with monolithic domes. The calculations they would give us would not be accurate since they would be basing them on a very different construction style. At least that is the information we have gathered by talking to the builders who have been constructing these homes since the 1960's. 

Our first source of information is Monolithic (the dome company that designed the house) and confirmed by talking with the builders that built the dome shell for us. There is an article on Monolithic's website that explains using an electric water heater instead of a boiler/furnace as your heat source. The key point in the article, if you don't want to read the whole thing, is the wattage needed per square foot for a monolithic dome is different than a conventional house. Their experience has led them to recommend 2 watts per square foot for a monolithic dome radiant system. Typical systems in conventionally constructed homes are 10-12 watts per square foot. Our house is 2700 sq ft so we will need 5,400 watts. This falls within what a standard 50 gallon electric domestic water heater can handle. If you would like to read the in depth (but short) article CLICK HERE

Our other sources of information were YouTube and google searching articles. There is an amazing amount of information out there if you take the time to research. Everything we found on YouTube (and in articles) was for conventional homes but it is helpful in understanding best practices.

I wrote the beginning of this entry last month. The heating system has now been functioning for over a month and it has no problems keeping the house warm. That said it was a struggle to get everything up to temperature initially since we turned it on in our coldest month. Here are a few tips on how we laid out our system.

  • The house is broken down into zones with each tubing run no longer than 200' to make sure the returning water is still warm for better efficacy
  • We thought we would need to mix the 120 degree water out of the tank with cooler water before sending it into the floor but that is not the case. 
  • We did not put tubing under areas like the refrigerator, wood stove area or the toilets
  • We spaced our tubing loops 10"-12" apart; Monolithic suggests farther apart and conventional systems suggest closer so we split the difference
  • We tried to stagger our return tubing containing cooler water near tubing that would have the hottest water to avoid uneven heating in the slab
  • We put extra insulation under the slab. Double what code requires.
  • We are using in floor thermostat sensors. These are installed in extra empty runs of tubing. We kept the tubing as straight as possible and made sure not to place it too close to tubing avoiding areas where it was the beginning of the run and the water would be at its hottest. We measured the length of these tubes before pouring the floor. We purchased a cheap $15 electrical fish tape and cut it up into the lengths we would need to push the sensor and wire down the runs. The metal tape just stays in the tubing with the sensor and if they need to be replaced we can just pull it out and push a new one back down to the end again.
  • We made a primary circulation loop that feeds each zone pump and captures the returning cooler water and sends it back to the tank to be reheated. (see video link above to get details)
  • We put in shut off valves everywhere we could think of to make future repairs easier
  • Clear tubing for the pumps makes it easier to see bubbles and direction of flow when you are purging the new loops of air

This post is actually behind where we are in the build but I don't want to make it too long. I will try to get to another update to catch up to where we are in the build.


Comments

  1. Wow, so exciting! It does really look more like a home now and less than a construction site! The kitchen is going to be amazing! So awesome that you have heat!!!! You guys are doing amazing things <3

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    1. Thank you! Hopefully things continue smoothly and we can move in soon.

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  2. Where are these domes? Great job on radiant heat system. Which one did you go with?

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    1. We are building in CT. For the radiant heat manifolds we went with blue fin. The pumps are Grundfos.(these are super quiet) I can't remember the brand of thermostats but they are specifically for radiant floor.

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  3. Hello from David, Jennifer and Ben Breed. What a great job you have done with documenting this process!
    You have answered so many question we have about possibly building a Monolithic Dome instead of a conventional home.

    We have so many questions. Why did you choose South Industries instead of Monolithic Domes to construct the dome and are you glad you did?

    I might imagine cost per square foot being a big factor.

    We spoke to Monolithic this week and was quoted 100 a square foot just for the dome we want. Electrical, plumbing and finish work is another story.

    We are from Paradise California, the town that was totally devastated by fire in 2018. We are finally ready to consider rebuilding and would love a chance to briefly speak with you about your experience. Thank you in advance, David, Jennifer and Benjamin.

    530-513-4081

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    1. Hi,
      We went with South Industries because it is the sister company to Monolithic that would travel to us. Monolithic doesn't (or wouldn't at the time) travel to New England.

      We are super happy with our experience working with South Industries. They absolutely know what they are doing. We might have price shopped around a bit more if we weren't set on having an all one level multi dome layout. It made us too nervous to hire someone less experienced to do our layout. If we had done a single dome we might have gone with a different builder. We were pouring too much of our savings into this build for it to go wrong because we bargain shopped. We paid $72 sqft for South to come out and build just the dome shell, ring beam and interior floor tie beams for us.

      We are totally willing to do a phone call if it is helpful. You wouldn't be the first. Just let me know what might work. Weekends are probably easiest because we do have a time difference to deal with since we are in Connecticut.

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  4. Hi, I got fed up with Facebook and closed my account, there, so I no longer have access to Messenger. Nathan and I connected last week. He sent me an updated contract and I'm all set to sign and send with money but now I'm waiting to hear back from him about the Builder's Risk Policy. When I called around (Washington state) I was told, "oh, we don't insure domes." So I hope Nathan will get back to me about that with a contract that includes that. How did you handle it?

    Oh, FYI, he was excited when I mentioned you to him and he was excited to hear that.

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    1. Glad to hear you connected with Nathan, he is a nice guy and did a great job on our house.

      As for the builders risk, we just added it on to a policy we already had for the farm. It is a local insurance company and they just made a package for us.

      I did also go to Allstate and get a quote...we just didn't go with them. We use Allstate for our cars and my conversation with the agent was really positive. I asked for a builders risk quote and also asked about insurance after the CO. They do insure domes. I did start the conversation by answering his questions in a very general way and did not mention it was a dome at first. For type of construction I told him all masonry with a single ply roof membrane (like a commercial building). I then told him the shape and asked if it is a problem and he said no.

      The builders risk is different than insuring the house.. not sure why you had a problem with that. Builders risk is for any type of construction. It covers the risk of people wandering onto your build site and hurting themselves as well as theft of materials etc. It is more related to how much the build costs and insuring you for the build process against whatever. Again, Allstate gave us a quote.... we just decided to use the local company instead.

      Goodluck! It is super exciting to get started and Nathan and his family really know their stuff.

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    2. Allstate? I had not tried them. I will. Thanks!!!

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  5. I spoke with a local Allstate agent. As it happens the guy I contacted is from Idaho and is very familiar with the Souths' domes and he's a big fan. But he also said that due to all the other objections I'm sure you dealt with, too, Allstate does not (knowingly) cover monolithic domes, and if a claim was ever made they would deny it. I emailed Nathan to let him know. He's got a call into his underwriter to see if they've come up with anything for my project, yet.

    Up until Gov. Jay Inslee issued his get jabbed or get fired mandate, I worked for the state of Washington in Medicaid to ensure Medical, Dental and Vision insurance carriers paid primary to Medicaid. So I've dealt with those kind of insurance carriers all over the country (and in a few other countries, too). Claims for exclusions are a brick wall.

    Not that claims ever need to be made. The monolithic dome homes will outlast us all! I want mine to be a legacy for the family. If rich people can have their multi-generational family compounds, then why can't we working stiffs do that, too? I'm old, grouchy, no kids, just my nieces and nephew, so I aim to get this place built and then put it into a family trust.

    But now it's almost time for me to go let a county inspector into my garage. Thank you for your suggestion and for this wonderful blog! I will be back to enjoy your progress, and to let you know about mine.

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